she later pops up as a guest on hannity. >> this is why everybody in this room is so ticked off. i don't want this country turning into russia, turning into a socialized country. my question for you is -- what are you going to do to restore this country back to what our founders created according to the constitution? >> katie, were you happy with the answer you got from the senator today. >> my best friend karen called me and said, katie, you're on youtube? i'm like, what? that's odd. but, you know, honestly, after i asked the question, i was so just -- i don't know. i didn't hear half of what he said, to be honest with you. >> other people have shown up on these programs as well. is this a case where some conservative people are trying to turn these people into another "joe the plumber?" >> of course. things are much more understandable and this sort of the -- to talk about the concerns generally is not as powerful as seeing it expressed in the clearly very heart felt, very deep felt views of people. but there's a really interesting loop that's going on, which is -- i happen to